One of the best sites, and one of my favorites, for learning about the cultic nature and false belief system of the LDS is Life After Ministry. They often expose things even I haven’t previously known about. Today’s post is to lead you to some of their recent articles which I think should be thought-provoking for any Mormon, and which hopefully will get the reader to consider leaving the LDS false god-man and false Jesus for the true God and Jesus of authentic Christianity.
Doctrine & Covenants 129:1-9: Joseph Smith actual taught that one should shake hands with demons. The whole passage is unbiblical nonsense.
One of the many errors in the Book of Mormon—that most perfect book—which had to be “fixed” to avoid embarrassment; how could Jesus be his own son?
Just one of the many problems with the geography in the Book of Mormon.
While Christendom has traditionally observed Good Friday as the remembrance of Jesus’ crucifixion which paid for our sins, Mormons can’t observe it because they believe the atonement was in the Garden of Gethsemane. This particular article also cites the lies of the LDS explanation about Easter being from paganism and at the same time obliterates the lies with truth. I also direct you to two articles by Answers in Genesis: Is the Date of Easter of Pagan Origin? and Is the Name “Easter” of Pagan Origin?
When Mormon leaders admit that the Book of Mormon isn’t true, shouldn’t that lead a member of the LDS to have second thoughts about his religious beliefs?
Please explain to me, dear Mormon, how Jesus could be a “white” man when Jews were all darker-skinned that Europeans?
The LDS has a theology which requires a “heavenly mother” and yet the leadership has to be sure to tell their followers not to pray to her!
These articles should give you a pretty good taste of what you will find at Life After Ministry.
18 comments:
Timothy,
Your comment has no bearing on my post except to attack one article by LAM. You have nothing to offer but LDS word salad and I'm not letting you proselytize for your false religions system in the comment string.
Try responding to my articles and proving where I am wrong in MY assessment of the LDS cult.
You stated: "Your comment has no bearing on my post except to attack one article by LAM. You have nothing to offer but LDS word salad and I'm not letting you proselytize for your false religions system in the comment string.'
My response: It appears you misunderstood my comment and response to your post. What are you afraid of in not publishing my comment? That people may actually learn the truth that you are exposed as being deceptive? And how is my response proselytizing? You keep claiming the LDS is false, yet fail to provide any preponderance of evidence - that is completley intellectually dishonest.
I did not provide a link to my post out of respect for your comment. However, here is what you claim in your post:
1 - One of the best sites, and one of my favorites, for learning about the cultic nature and false belief system of the LDS is Life After Ministry. They often expose things even I haven't previously known about. Today's post is to lead you to some of their recent articles which I think should be thought-provoking for any Mormon, and which hopefully will get the reader to consider leaving the LDS false god-man and false Jesus for the true God and Jesus of Authentic Christianity.
Responding to this, Life After Ministry is exposed in pedestrian Eisegesis in quoting scripture. Exposed in manipulating and twisting information and being deceptive in presenting information to their readers. Lack any support for their assertion. I provide responses to a couple of their articles:
1 - Runland's General Conference Address: Don't Present the Truth - Just the Lies Michelle Grim where I expose the misrepresentation and lies Michelle Grim utilizes in attacking the General Conference talk.
2 - No LAM - The Sacrament is not a "Free-for-All" - It is a Renewal and Remembrance of Baptismal Covenants is the article where I expound on the nature of the Sacrament and the Emblems of the Sacrament as it replaced the Passover Seder Meal and Paschal Lamb. This is based on Exegesis of New Testament scripture passages and authoritative commentaries regarding the Lords Supper and how it correlates with the covenantal relationship established through Baptism by Immersion for the Remission of Sins. I even linked to an article where I expound on the sacred ordinance and ritual of baptism.
3 - Good Reason to Question False Claims Regarding Doctrine and Covenants 129:1-9 is my latest article challenging your claim and linking to those articles at LAM that are just as deceptive and dishonest in their content.
So, yes, I am responding to your articles and proving where you are in error of your assessment of the LDS Faith. You are more than welcome to check out my responses, and respond to them.
Unlike you, I am not afraid to hide comments of those who may criticize. Because I believe that is a dishonest and deceitful tactic of a counter-cult critic.
Timothy,
I don’t know how to remove the link from your name, so I CAUTION every reader to avoid this man’s blogs: He is a cult member defending false teachings!
I did NOT misunderstand your comment, and your are here simply repeating and embellishing your previous comment.
Life after ministry did NOT eisegete any passages — YOU DID!
Item 1: Again, there were no lies by Michelle, she simply quoted the man.
Item 2: Yes the “sacrament” is a free-for-all as she describe it. Even worse, the LDS removed the wine (or grape juice which is just unfermented wine) and replaced it with water. The point she was making was that even children take part, and according to the N.T. only believers take part and children are not old enough to understand the significance.
Item 3: LAM accurately described D&C 129.
I have no fear of LDS cult members and their so-called apologetics for their demonic and false system denigrating the true Christ and God of the Bible. I just don’t want to be helpful in sending people to sites that can confuse them with lies from the LDS.
I am not in error of my assessment of the LDS. This whole blog proves the errors and falsehoods of the LDS, beginning the lying false prophet Joseph Smith.
Again, I invite you to check out my articles provide your comment in showing where I am possible in error. What are you afraid of? Actually having to engage in an intellectual and honest discussion that requires the possibility of admitting you are in error and need to correct your dishonest and misinformation? Or, are you going to continue using insulting words that appear to do nothing but degrade and demean someone?
Timothy,
I do not visit Mormon sites; I don't need to. I'm an ex-Mormon. I don't bother looking for articles to engage. It has nothing to do with cowardess nor do I have a problem with intellectual discussions. I just have better things to do with my time.
No, I did not degrade or demean anyone; I just stated the truth about Joe Smith and the false, demonic false religion of the LDS.
If you want to visit MY articles, feel free. But I have no time to waste on LDS sites.
You stated: "I do not visit Mormon sites; I don't need to. I'm an ex-Mormon. I don't bother looking for articles to engage. It has nothing to do with cowardess nor do I have a problem with intellectual discussion. I just have better things to do.
My response: Well, when you make accusations and assumptions about someone and then are challenged to engage in a discussion, you appear to tuck tail and hide. That is behaving in a cowardly fashion.
You stated: No, I did not degrade or demean anyone. I just stated the truth about Joe Smith and the False demonic false religion of the LDS.
My response: And your very own words show you are being deceptive and dishonest.
"He is a cult member defending false teachings!" That is making a personal attack. It is insulting. It is demeaning, and degrading."
"I have no fear of LDS cult members and their so-called apologetics for their demonic and false system denigrating the true Christ and God of the Bible."
Finally, in other words, you have no time to defend your insulting vomitry from an intellectual perspective because you appear to be afraid to be exposed as a liar and a deceiver of truth.
Again, degrading, demeaning, and insulting words.
This is sad. I was an ex-Mormon for many years, enticed away by Evangelical Christianity, which I initially found refreshing, and then gradually became disillusioned and disappointed by the endless schisms and division, frequent pulpit scandals, and increasing emphasis on concert style worship of repeating shallow worship choruses. It seemed all milk, and no meat. I found I missed the greater truths of the Restoration, which caused me to feel closer to our Heavenly Father and his Son, made me want to follow Christ in word and deed, not merely by the mouth. That's my experience, it belongs to me, despite what I'm sure will be met with dismisive condescension.
Timothy,
You just keep calling it cowardice for not engaging, which just shows your pride. I told I don’t want to waste my time and yet you still call me a coward. SO who is calling names now?
It is not deceptive nor dishonest to say a prophet and a religion is false when the statement is 100% truth.
It is not a personal attack to make a true statement about someone.
You are pulling out typical LDS attacks when someone doesn’t want to play your game: you accuse me of having “insulting vomitry,” etc. when I merely state facts about the LDS.
You haven’t proven me to be a liar or a deceiver.
I have plenty of evidence on this blog to back up everything I’ve written.
You’ve had your say. I’m not posting another of your comments.
Leo,
If you were truly an ex-Mormon you'd never go back. The complaints about evangelical churches are same ones real Christians have and I expose all this crap on my apologetics blog ,https://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com
The LDS is not a "restoration" and you'd know that if you had truly left that false church. So you are playing the same game I've heard from Mormons many, many times; you are just a lying troll.
A lying troll? What kind of Christian does that when their views are challenged?
My view wasn't challenged. You trolled here because of Timothy and you lied about leaving the LDS.
Nothing un-Christian about that.
You're done here.
You are a sad human being if you must hate on people who disagree with you, or have had a different experience. That's not the Lords way and you know better. I have not lied about a single thing I wrote. I'd be happy to share the details of my experience if you had any interest, which you don't.
Leo
Typical MORMON response. I hate no-one but I hate false teachings such as what you follow. As a Mormon you do NOT know the true God and true Jesus. Details of a false experience are worthless
Timothy and Leo,
I've stated that the evidence proving the LDS is not Christian and is based on lies by a false prophet can be found throughout my blog. I don't have to engage in discussions with people who are not interested in the truth.
You can call me coward in whatever way you want, but I hold to a Biblical standard which says, "Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them" Ephesians 5:11.
Now go and fill someone else's inbox -- you know, the mature thing to do.
Just one more thing to demonstrate the totally illogical system of the LDS godhood, which is why anyone joining an evangelical church would never return to the LDS.
The LDS “God” is a god-man, who had a father, grandfather, great-grandfather ad infinitum.
He has to be married to a zillion wives to have eternal sex in order to provide spirit babies who are waiting to be born to humans. This god-man even had physical, literal sexual relations with Mary to provide a human body for Jesus’ spiritual body to inhabit. Of course that means Mary wasn’t a virgin when she conceived. Now, I’ve been told by LDS leadership that Mary was still a virgin to mortal man but their “god” is an immortal man. But virgin means never had sex, not even with an immortal man.
This was the doctrine which got me thinking something was not quite right with LDS theology and so led to me to research until I learned how fraudulent the church was with a fraudulent beginning with lies by Joseph Smith.
I've been out of the lds church for many years now....one thing that cemented my realization that things were bogus in SLC....the temple ritual and film. It has changed over the years. How can the most secret, sacred word from God need altering? I know some apologists say 'we weren't doing it correctly so it had to be straightened out.' The first film I saw in 1970 had someone describing the devil as having black skin and claws on his hands like a bear. Then that comment disappeared. Then there was a protestant-like minister in the film. He was 'paid to teach' by the devil himself. I recognized that 'minister' b/c I took a drama class from him at BYU, Max Golightly. I learned from my son who left the church in 2006-ish, there was no longer a minister in the film. Did their god include a 'minister' in his original message to Joseph, or didn't he? Talk about gaslighting.
Yeah, the film attacks real Christians, which is why it finally disappeared. Joe was told by "God" that all Christian faiths were corrupt, which is what led to the idea of a devil minister.
Wow - not sure what to think on this. I am curious where you learned about the "fraudulent teachings" of the LDS Faith. I am having a difficult time believing what you are writing here and really am curious because it seems there are others who may have something different to say.
For instance - how do you know that someone leaves the LDS Faith and becomes an Evangelical Christian is not prone to return back to the LDS Faith? I have not heard anyone mention this. I do know that people leave their religion for different reasons.
I guess I am looking for actual sources that are reputable to consult to determine whether or not I ought to continue taking the missionary discussions. I do not want to be misled by anyone.
Anonymous,
I learned about the fraudulent teachings through studying Mormon publications and Mormon history. Everything on my blog has citations from LDS pubs/authors.
How do I know someone who became an Evangelical Christian and then returned to Mormonism wouldn’t leave Christianity for Mormonism? 1 John 2:19.
You can look over all the articles on this blog and see that the LDS is a cult based on lies and a false prophet, all citing LDS references.
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