The Seer, p. 215 “Questions and Answers On Doctrine…
Q. What does the Lord require of the people of the United States?
A. He requires them to repent of all their sins and embrace the message of salvation, contained in the Book of Mormon, and be baptized into THIS church, and prepare themselves for the coming of the Lord.
Q. What will be the consequence if they do not embrace the Book of Mormon as a divine revelation?
A. They will be DESTROYED from the land and SENT DOWN TO HELL, like all other
generations who have rejected a divine message!”
Apostle Orson Pratt
The vast majority of the people in the USA are NOT LDS nor will they ever be and yet none are destroyed, nor have been destroyed, for denying/denouncing the Book of Mormon.
H/T: Life After Ministry.
8 comments:
Is there any reason you quoted this, as it appears you merely copied from Life After Ministries, without actually fact checking to see if it is accurate? I just came across your post via the Latter-day Saint Faith, Reason, and Sobriety blog.
I also looked at Life After Ministries blog post and find it to be quite lacking and deceptive.
Lacking and deceptive because it is based on a strawman fallacy, presentism, false equivalence, and appeal to popularity.
Yes it is copied from Life After Ministry as I note at the bottom with my "Hat Tip." I have never found them to be deceptive and the rest of your statement in fallacious.
Spend some time on this blog starting at October 2014 and work your way up and you'll see how I expose the LDS for the demonic cult that it is.
Oh, so "trust me bro" apologetics. You are too funny. I'd rather read someone who has a good grasp of intelligence and honesty and not one who strokes their own ego in their own echo chamber. Good luck for your demonic cult brainwashing blog. Lying and bearing false witness leads you to hell. Get out of your demonic cult before it is too late.
People like you who resort to ad hominem attacks only demonstrate you have not cohesive or cogent argment. And, by the way, I am an ex-Mormon and sitting on my shelf behind me are copies of the BOM, POGP, D&C, Gospel Principles and all sorts of LDS publications including lots of books about the various prophets and their teachings.
I'll give you a chance to answer questions:
https://watchmanvlds.blogspot.com/2014/10/questions-regarding-book-of-mormon-part.html
Resort to ad hominem attack huh? Hmmm what was it you said? Oh yeah, your own words:
"I have never found them to be deceptive and the rest of your statement in fallacious.
Spend some time on this blog starting at October 2014 and work your way up and you'll see how I expose the LDS for the demonic cult that it is."
Talk about arrogant hypocrisy and double standards. What a pathetic joke. You are insulting and then pitch and moan when someone lays the same charge against you. Good luck with your imbecilic stupidity.
Do you understand what an "ad hominem" attack is? You attacked ME as a person but I did NOT attack you as a person. I attack the LDS as a cult, which by Christian standards it it. It worships a different God and a different Jesus that REAL, Bilblical Christianity.. Nothing arrogant about telling the truth. Just what are my double standards? Where do you see me "pitch and moan?" And of course you ended with another ad hominem attack.
Did you bother to look at the article I linked to? What are the answers to the questions?
It might help to clarify something here. When you describe the LDS faith as a “demonic cult,” that is a form of ad hominem — not against one individual, but against an entire group. An ad hominem doesn’t have to be personal; it can target a community in order to dismiss their arguments without addressing them.
The original commenter raised specific concerns about strawman arguments, presentism, and false equivalence. Instead of engaging those points, the response shifted to labeling the entire faith tradition as “demonic.” That’s a rhetorical move, not a substantive rebuttal.
You’re certainly free to disagree with LDS doctrine, but disagreement is strongest when it focuses on evidence and reasoning rather than moral condemnation. Calling a group “demonic” doesn’t demonstrate that their claims are false — it only signals that you’ve already judged them before the discussion begins.
If you want people to seriously consider your questions or critiques, engaging the actual arguments rather than the character of the group would probably be more productive.
Truth is not an ad hominem. The LDS is NOT a Christian faith. It is in fact a demonic cult as evidence of its origins and practices demonstrate. The first commenter resorted to name calling rather than engage in a discussion about the facts. HIS claims of "stawman," etc arguments were untrue. I challenged him to read a post and answer the questions in the post and instead he resorted to more ad hominem attacks.
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