Wednesday, January 28, 2015

Random Things About Mormonism

Well, the big news now is a statement by the Mormon Church about rights for “gays.”  They are willing to compromise, yet those who practice homosexuality have already turned down such a compromise.  The real problem here is that the Mormons pretend that “gays” don’t already have the exact same rights as everyone else, and what they really want — and are getting — are special rights base on their sexual behavior!  So, my big question is this: Why aren’t Mormons taking God’s side on this issue?

Another bit of news is a new Mormon Temple in Indiana.  It’s not so much what the Mormons are telling the public, rather it is — as usual — what they aren’t telling the public.

Mormon teaching on abortion is quite convoluted.  So why is abortion a sin?

Janis Hutchinson has done an excellent study on the bizarre Mormon “Law of Adoption.”  It’s quite a long paper, but she does give you an alternative to select a “condensed version.

Moving along with some current Mormon news, it looks like some “doctrine” is being removed from the Doctrine & Covenants

Christians Apologetics & Research Ministry has some “Interesting Quotes from Brigham Young.”  There are so many examples of unbiblical nonsense!

CARM also has a list of very interesting “Questions for Mormons” which I’d like Mormons to answer!

Kent Ponder takes an in-depth look of the Jaredite ships described in the book of Ether in the Book of Mormon.  After explaining what the text says, Ponder has 40 thought-provoking questions which should make any Mormon take notice of problems with this story.

The last two items, by James White, come from Alpha & Omega Ministries.

First, we have some quotations from Mormon leaders telling us what they think of the Christian faith - i.e., the true Christian faith vs. Mormonism.  They are not very nice.

Second, White gives a timeline of The Evolution of Mormon Theology.  Most Mormons have no idea about this true history of their teachings.

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

I am a Mormon and I just wanted to clarify a couple things if I may. The actual name of the church is "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints".

The reason that Mormons "sound almost right" to you is because our beliefs are very similar. Yes there are significany theological differences, but in terms of values and principles we are nearly if not completely identical. It is our doctrine that has differences. Mormons are not evil. Look at our "fruits". Most people who are serious in their religion are good people honestly seeking to please God. We do not need to resolve our doctrinal differences to unite behind correct values and principles.

In my discussion below I don't intend to argue about who is right or wrong, just to explain:

To clarify a little when you say that mormons "do not acknowledge the Jesus of the bible because they believe He is flesh, and that satan is his brother", I think the reader might benefit from a little more information. I assume that by "He is flesh" you mean that we believe he has a body. This is true, we believe in a literal resurrection. When Jesus was resurrected, we believe that His spirit reunited with his body, in a perfected form, and that he still has that body today. Hence the empty tomb, ect.

The part about Satan being Jesus's brother is sort of true I guess. We believe that all of us existed as spirit children of God before the Earth was created, including Jesus and Satan. Satan became Satan when he rebelled against God. Jesus was chosen to be the Savior of the World and came into this life as the literal Son of God. So under our doctrine all of us are spiritually brothers and sisters including Jesus and Satan.

We do believe in the Bible and that the Atonement of Jesus was enough to cleanse us from our sins, but that He makes that forgiveness conditional upon our repenting and changing our ways. We must believe, but we must also express that faith by striving to keep the commandments. We believe in the same Jesus and the same Bible, we just interpret it differently.

At the worst you should consider us misguided brothers and sisters, but definately not evil. We don't consider you to be evil. I will stand next to all of you to defend correct values and principles any day.

You can find out just about anything you want to know about mormons at www.mormon.org and www.lds.org.

Glenn E. Chatfield said...

Anonymous,

I am an ex-Mormon and am well aware of the official name of the Mormon Church, but I don't like using the name of Jesus Christ for the name of a cult.

And, no, the Mormon religion does NOT "sound almost right," because our beliefs may SOUND similar but once you start defining your terms then there is nothing at all about the Mormon church which is similar to real Christianity. As you noted, DOCTRINE is the dividing point.

I'm not sure what you are quoting about Jesus being "flesh." The point is that the Mormon Jesus was never part of the Triune God. The point is that the Mormon Jesus body is still just "flesh" while the Scripture says he has a spiritual body; such as the ability to walk through walls.

The part about Jesus being Satan's brother is not "sort of true," it is a fact of LDS theology. However, I understand the unbiblical doctrine of eternal progressing that makes everyone a sibling of Satan. By the way, he didn't "become" Satan except in the fact Satan means "adversary" and he became the adversary when he fell into sin. By the way, Lucifer was never his name either -- Smith just made that up from his copying of the KJV Bible, which erroneously used the term "Lucifer" and which was later taught to be the name of Satan when the Isaiah passage was spiritualized. (see my article here: http://watchmansbagpipes.blogspot.com/2018/01/about-lucifer.html
This alone proves that Smith was a false prophet, to claim that satan was was ever Lucifer.

You only believe in the Bible insofar as it is "correctly translated" with absolutely NO scholarship to prove Mormon claims against it; so, no, you really don't believe in the Bible because if you did you would leave the Mormon Church!

And your belief about the atonement of Christ is absolutely heretical. You can't just "interpret" the Jesus described in the Bible so as to fit your demonic theology. Your Jesus is NOT the Jesus of the Bible; your Jesus demands works to be saved, your Jesus paid for sin in the Garden of Gethsemane, your Jesus is not the creator and is a sibling to everyone in creation.

I have never considered the average Mormon to be evil, just deceived and hell-bound. It is the originators of the Mormon cult (Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, et al) who were evil, as are the leaders of the LDS today. They are evil because they have known, and do still know that they are liars.

Good values and principles won't save you or me.

And, no, you can't find "just about anything you want to know" at those LDS links. They lie, lie, lie, and obfuscate also. What I suggest instead is to thoroughly read through THIS blog site and you will learn everything you need to know about the false teaching of the un-Christian, unbiblical cult of Mormonism.