Monday, September 30, 2019

Another False Prophecy?

The President of the Mormon Church is also their prophet during the time he is President. So if said prophet gives a prophecy, and it fails, then he is a false prophet.

Now, some Mormon may say this utterance wasn’t a prophecy, but even if it isn’t, it is an unqualified statement about the future actions of the Mormon Church: 

We will not end the practice of plural marriage until the coming of the Son of Man.
President Wilford Woodruff, as quoted by Journal of John Henry Smith, 21 May 1888, LDS Church Archives.  (H/T Life After Ministry.)

This very same Wilford Woodruff then issued the Manifesto ending polygamy on 25 September 1890, and did so for one reason — so that Utah could be admitted to the Union. (And also to regain assets escheated to the U.S. Government, of course.)

Now Mormons consider this manifesto to have been prompted by divine revelation, i.e., Woodruff was acting in accordance with a revelation from God, even though the Manifesto itself wasn’t a direct revelation. I know, it’s confusing, so let’s clarify this.  According to Wikipedia, “Woodruff later said that on the night of September 23, 1890, he received a revelation from Jesus Christ that the church should cease the practice of plural marriage.”  So apparently a direct revelation was given to Woodruff to cease polygamy, but the Manifesto wasn’t the revelation itself.

However, some plural marriages were still being performed to the point where another “Manifesto” was issued by LDS President Joseph F. Smith in 1904 stating that the LDS Church no longer sanctioned polygamous marriages and would excommunicate those who entered such unions.

And yet to add to the confusion, Doctrine & Covenants 132 was a direct revelation to Joseph Smith initiating polygamy (although Smith had been practicing it for years) as an “everlasting covenant; and if ye abide not that covenant, then are ye damned; for no one can reject this covenant and be permitted to enter my glory. …

So if this was to be an “everlasting” practice, God must have lied to Joseph Smith from the beginning, knowing He would have to stop the practice in 1890. Or did He lie to Wilford Woodruff when he told Woodruff to cease the practice? Or did Joseph F. Smith violate God’s D&C 132 covenant in 1904?

I’ve pointed out before what God’s real view of polygamy is. But Mormons have turned God into a liar by their false prophecies. Either that or they are all damned for not obeying God’s commands in D&C 132!

Wednesday, September 25, 2019

Did They Really Say That?!?!

Jesus … established his kingdom on the earth…. the kingdoms of this world made war against the kingdom of God, established eighteen centuries ago, and they prevailed against it, and the kingdom ceased to exist. … This is what we believe; and it is the sincere belief and faith of the Latter-day Saints that we are in that kingdom. It is true that our King is now absent: he is in the heavens. But we expect him again; we look for him and he will come in his own due time… in organizing this kingdom He has restored all the essential characteristics of His kingdom in its embryo, or its beginning: such as inspired men, inspired prophets, inspired leaders, called by revelation to act in different positions.

Orson Pratt, Salt Lake City, April 10, 1870, Journal of Discourses 13:125-126

Please explain one thing to me, Mormon: Did Jesus lie in Matthew 16:18?

Think about this: In the Book of Mormon, Moroni 8:8 says that Jesus is God. So if you say Jesus lied in Matthew 16:18, then you say that God lied.

If you say Jesus/God lied, then how can you trust that they told the truth in any revelation to Joseph Smith?

Mormons just assert that “the kingdom ceased to exist” without any evidence for such claim, and in direct contradiction to what Scripture actually says. But they have to say that or their entire belief system is proven false.

I’ll say it again: The LDS faith was founded on lies, is supported by lies, and maintained by lies.  Who is the “father of lies” according to John 8:44?  Satan!  That should tell you who the "god" of Mormonism is.

Wednesday, September 18, 2019

Did HE Really Say That?!?!

I bear my testimony that [polygamy] is a necessity, and that the Church of Christ in its fullness never existed without it. Where you have the eternity of marriage you are bound to have plural marriage; bound to; and it is one of the marks of the Church of Jesus Christ in its sealing ordinances. “Whatever you bind on earth is bound in heaven.” We know how sensitive the Prophet Joseph was to introduce this principle. He knew the feeling that was against it. It had been taught from the days of heathen Rome down to the present time that a man should have but one wife, which has resulted in the prostitution of many of the fair daughters of Eve as mistresses. Here we have too much love for women to see them trampled in the dust. Here we have too much respect for unborn spirits to have them come into the world branded as bastards, illegitimate, in shame, without knowing their fathers. The children we have are legitimate. They are our own. We honor them and our wives. Our children are given unto us of God, for our wives are given to us of God. We never should have thought of practicing this principle [plural marriage] if God had not revealed it from the heavens and commanded it, and we must stand by it and by every principle that He has revealed.

Apostle George Teasdale (b.1831, d.1907), Journal of Discourses, v. 25, pp. 19-22

Okay, so let’s break this comment down and examine it, bit by bit.

I bear my testimony that [polygamy] is a necessity, and that the Church of Christ in its fullness never existed without it.
Please show me from Scripture and from history where polygamy was a common practice in the Christian church — after all, Teasdale said the Church never existed without it!

Where you have the eternity of marriage you are bound to have plural marriage; bound to; and it is one of the marks of the Church of Jesus Christ in its sealing ordinances.
First, no place in Scripture will you find any mention of eternal marriage, rather Jesus even stated that there will be no marriage in heaven (Matthew 22:30).  “Sealing” people in marriage is a Mormon ritual made up by Joseph Smith.

“Whatever you bind on earth is bound in heaven.”
A typical abuse of Scripture by Mormon leadership.  This passage has to do with church discipline, not “sealing” people together for eternity. (Matthew 16:19; 18:18)

We know how sensitive the Prophet Joseph was to introduce this principle. He knew the feeling that was against it.
Yes, he was “sensitive,” about it because he was afraid this invention to cover his adulterous affairs wouldn’t fly with his wife.  The whole reason for LDS polygamy was the insatiable sexual appetite of Joseph Smith, and the other men he conned into it.

It had been taught from the days of heathen Rome down to the present time that a man should have but one wife, which has resulted in the prostitution of many of the fair daughters of Eve as mistresses. Here we have too much love for women to see them trampled in the dust.
This is one of the biggest lies of the whole defense of polygamy. Monogamy is not what caused prostitution; that is one of the most fallacious claims in this particular citation.  If they really loved the women, they wouldn’t subject them to such an institution. All one has to do is to read the many testimonies by women who have lived in a polygamous household. Normal women don’t want to share their men.  Another thing regarding abusing women — Joseph Smiths many wives included many who were already married to someone else!

Here we have too much respect for unborn spirits to have them come into the world branded as bastards, illegitimate, in shame, without knowing their fathers. The children we have are legitimate. They are our own. We honor them and our wives. Our children are given unto us of God, for our wives are given to us of God.
First, there are no such things as “unborn spirits.” This wasn’t even originally a part of Mormon doctrine! But supposing these spirits really did exist, why would they be born without knowing their fathers?  And since Smith took many other men’s wives for his own at the same time, how would any woman who became pregnant know for sure that the child’s father was from her husband or from Smith?

God did NOT give polygamy to the Mormons, nor anyone else.  God’s view of polygamy should be quite clear—it is unholy. To claim that God commanded polygamy is blasphemous.

Monday, September 16, 2019

Did HE Really say That?!?!


So historians "idolize the truth"?!?!  No! What we have here is Mormons hating truth, because truth exposes the history of the LDS as one huge lie!!!