tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253699696133005190.post2177848804031559633..comments2024-03-21T09:54:37.839-05:00Comments on The Anti-Mormon Blog: The Test of AntiquityGlenn E. Chatfieldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253699696133005190.post-58349900304548672602017-12-25T18:16:15.882-06:002017-12-25T18:16:15.882-06:00Mr cowardly anonymous,
I'm publishing your co...Mr cowardly anonymous,<br /><br />I'm publishing your comment so readers can see just how foolish Mormons can be. You found a typo and made fun of it; how very "Christian" of you -- how juvenile of you. Grow up; I'm sure you never made a typo in your life.Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253699696133005190.post-10686745177241693372017-12-25T17:14:37.964-06:002017-12-25T17:14:37.964-06:00"I wonder why you would lake such a statement..."I wonder why you would lake such a statement."<br /><br />I didn't know you could use lake as a verb. Can I lake you in the face, buddy o' pal?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253699696133005190.post-80138011487929361812017-02-21T11:10:38.985-06:002017-02-21T11:10:38.985-06:00The test of antiquity has been around for a very, ...The test of antiquity has been around for a very, very long time. It was developed to expose forgeries by determining the very things stated in the article, all of which the Book of Mormon fails.<br /><br />The test of truth isn’t by praying about it, because all you end up with is subjective feelings. Why is it that only Mormons have prayers answered as being affirmations of the Book of Mormon?<br /><br />Faith must have a factual foundation, which is not present in the LDS faith. All the prophecies of Joseph Smith have been proven false, the Book of Mormon and the Book of Abraham have both been proven beyond any reasonable doubt to be fraudulent documents, etc.<br /><br />How do you explain that I read the BOM with an open mind and found it to be fraudulent? I even demonstrate all the problems with it in my series on the BOM in October 2014 (which I suggest you review)? How do you explain that discovering all the lies in the LDS history, BOM, prophecies, etc, is what lead ME to leave the Mormon church?<br /><br />You receive an affirmative answer from yourself, not from God, because God wouldn’t affirm that which contradicts His revealed Word in the Bible. But the LDS excuse when someone doesn’t believe the BOM is true is because, as you said, they have a <i>hardened heart and having an attitude of judgement, no humility and not willing to listen to the Spirit.</i> Very convenient — “if you don’t believe what we say, then it is because of your attitude”! I call that a logic fallacy.<br /><br /><i>It sounds like you have no faith in anything when it comes to religion.</i><br />I wonder why you would lake such a statement. I have faith in the veracity of the Holy Bible, I have faith that in that book one finds the true ETERNAL God (not a god who was a sinful man who had to work his way to godhood) and the true ETERNAL Son of God who is equal with the Father and was born of a virgin (without an “immortal man” - your god - having sex with Mary) and died on the cross to pay for our sins and rose again from the dead to prove the sacrifice was accepted. I am a born-again Christian, with faith based on facts. Your faith is based on believe lies you’ve been told.<br /><br /><i>Having faith plus knowledge plus action brings so many things to light, blessings and miricals and just unbelievable things.</i><br />Really? But you do not have the true knowledge of the LDS religion or you would leave it. Just what miracles have you personally witnessed? What unbelievable things have you personally witnessed that could only be ascribed to God?<br /><br />I highly recommend you read my series on the BOM, and even the rest of the articles just from October and November 2014 where I also expose the false prophecies of Smith, false doctrines, fraudulent priesthood. <br /><br />I pray that your eyes will be opened to the truth and that you will seek repentance and salvation in the true Jesus of the Bible.Glenn E. Chatfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04117405535707961903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6253699696133005190.post-27847716829162544422017-02-21T08:36:05.299-06:002017-02-21T08:36:05.299-06:00Who came up with this "test of antiquity"...Who came up with this "test of antiquity" you speak of? You? I've never heard of such a think in the LDS religion or culture. Those of us who are members, most of us, do not need to use a test to determine anything about the truth fullness or validity of our Church or the Book of Mormon or Bible. A huge component of our Gospel is Faith. Believing without seeing. Better put, KNOW ING, without any need for a physical validation. The person you mention that you asked how she knew the Book of Mormon was true...that she had prayed about it, we'll, she's absolutely 100% CORRECT. That is how you find out if it is true and correct. That, if you prefer to look at it this way, is validation. However, Members don't use that word. We read the Book.of Mormon with open hearts and minds, trying to without judgement. When we finish the Book, we pray to Heavenly Father, asking with Faith, humility, and true intent, having a real desire of wanting to know it is true. You will receive an answer to your prayer. Sometimes right away, maybe not right away. If not right away, maybe it's not the right time in your life to know due to a hardened heart and and having an attitude of judgement, no humility and not willing to listen to the Spirit. Church History is important and it is studied in our Church. But needing to know all of these answers you want to the questions you have, isn't more important or necessary to decide whether or not the Book of Mormon is real or true. There are going to always, ALWAYS be questions we have about life, why this or that happens, how things work, and especially questions about the LDS religion that no one can answer, even the Prophet or a well known scholar of the religion. That's just how it's going to be. And that is exactly what faith is about. Faith without works is dead. It sounds like you have no faith in anything when it comes to religion. Having faith plus knowledge plus action brings so many things to light, blessings and miricals and just unbelievable things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com